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OK guys time to fight ..Whats your take ? Our country is goingto civil unrest ..(bomb blasts

everywhere, marathi regionalism ..Raj spilling poison,Marathiskilling UPites and Biharis etc etc) As

Alexander said in the other thread, we should go and vote in thenext LS elections the best

candidate..Now which party will develop our nation more ?

BJP or Congress ?

My take is BJP ..They are not 100% good but far far better thanCongress...

We can see in their regime , even they were not single largestparty they had done what Congress

hadnt done in 45 years....Lets see their postives and negatives(Source : Wiki):

POSITIVES :

1. The new Government carried out an electoral promise with the5nuclear testsatPokhran, in

Rajasthanin 1998, which gave India a weaponised nuclearcapacity.

2. Opening the skies to commercial airlines

3. The government especially catered to the risinginformationtechnologyindustry

4. lowered taxes for middle-class Indians and businesses

5. Vajpayee took a personal interest in theGoldenQuadrilateralproject, a road system which

aimed at linking the four corners of the nation with heavy,industrial roads --> MOREINFRASTRUCTURE, MORE JOBS betterINDIA

6. They were also thinking of linking rivers but by the timethey act, govt was OUT

NEGATIVES :

1. Totally flopped on Kargil (524 Indian soldiers died )

2. KANDHAR HIJACK CASE ---> External Affairs Minister,JaswantSingh, personally escorted threeterrorists to Kandahar in returnfor the hostages on board a hijacked aircraft. This was shownon

discovery full documentary that if Vajapyee had sent AmritsarPolice to aircraft, these three

terrorist would still be in Indian Jail

3. Unable to prevent or abort Akshardham, Raghunath Mandir, theParliament and Red Fort

attacks.Afzal Guru, convicted in the Parliament House attackcase, had been arrested and let off

two months before the incident took place

4. Tehelka sting operation caught the BJP president,BangaruLaxman, accepting Rs 1lakhin cash

from journalists pretending to be defence dealers

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Some of the professed goals of the BJP are:

1. The Repeal of Article 370 of the Constitution, which preventsnon-Kashmiris, includingHindus who have fled the area due toincreasing terrorism, from owning property in the

state ofJammu and Kashmir.

2. The Promulgation of aUniform Common Civil Code, which createonly one personal andcivil law code for Hindus, Muslims andChristians, who enjoy the privilege of having law

codes tailored to their religious culture over personal andfamily matters. In the minds of

BJP supporters, this system creates a sense of division in thecountry between religious

communities.

3. A Ban on Cow Slaughter, to honor the Hindu tradition ofdeemingcows and most cattle assacred, and prohibiting theconsumption of beef and pork.

4. The Ban on Forcible Religious Conversions5. The Constructionof theRam Janmabhoomitemple inAyodhya.6. To achieve the fullterritorial and political integration ofJammuandKashmirwithIndia.

Presently over 40% of the territory is under the controlofPakistanandChina.

UNIFORM CIVIL CODE I fully agree ..Why there should be anydiscrimination between Indians ?

BJP has enacted POTA----> terrorism major control

Golden Quadrilateral, Nuclear test etc etc..These can onlyreally develop our nation...Congress has

removed it and now u can see whats happening in ourcountry..BLASTS everywhere ...

We can see BJP ruled states like Gujarat, HP etc are doing muchmore good than Congress rules

states...

SO IMO BJP is far far better than Congress at any time.. What dou guys say ?

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29-10-2008, 09:01 PM #2(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

Quote:

UNIFORM CIVIL CODE I fully agree ..Why there should be any

discrimination between Indians ?

BJP has enacted POTA----> terrorism major control

Golden Quadrilateral, Nuclear test etc etc..These can onlyreallydevelop our nation...Congress has removed it and now u cansee

whats happening in our country..BLASTS everywhere ...

We can see BJP ruled states like Gujarat, HP etc are doingmuch

more good than Congress rules states...

SO IMO BJP is far far better than Congress at any time.. What dou

guys say ?

+1... Now India is being ruled by a bunch of worthless people...WTF,

we are having almost daily dosage of bombs and nobody caresabout

it... I know that there are corrupt people in both BJP and Cong(as a

matter of fact, all parties), but BJP is little better (readcleaner) than

others IMO... However for the time being, India needs POTA+Modito

cleanup things....

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29-10-2008, 09:03 PM #3(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

^^Thanks Swatty..ur 100% correct..Lets see when Narendra bhaiwill

become PM

w8ing for other digitians opinions....

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29-10-2008, 09:09 PM #4(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

yah right BJP is good. Have u read the news lately. BJP isdirectly or

indirectly linked with the culprits accused in the Malegoanblasts. The

whole Godhra fiasco, Babri Masjid demolition. All BJP.

Even as the opposition, they suck. They vetoed the Nuke dealeven

though they themselves initiated it. Just for pettypolitics.

Though the Congress also isnt much better, compared with theBJP

they are tolerable.

But I do agree with Narendra Modi being a good chief minister.He is

like a CEO who is running Gujarat efficiently even though heagain was

involved in the whole Godhra disaster.

Frankly all political parties in India are bad... the questionis who is less

worse compared to the other.

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29-10-2008, 09:12 PM #5(permalink)

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@sumit,

Hahaha.... Okay... But, it all depends on us (voters/citizens)too....

Things will not magically improve when a certain party comesinto

power... We are too much adjusted to corruption, sh*tty politicsetc to

such an extent that we think they are a part of the system....We have

to wake up.... I am not saying to go and kill people in RobinHood style,

things can start at grass root level - like, for example,sticking to traffic

rule (have you driven in Bangalore )... Ha! This feels like afilm story

which will flop for sure (Yuva, anyone?)...

@anispace,

I am not interested in starting a flamewar here... But, you maywant to

check outthis... One has to think about/respect the other sideof thestory as well

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29-10-2008, 09:33 PM #6(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

@ Anispace ..everybody has their opinions thats y I startedthis

thread..Also please vote in polling button....

@swatty..ur rite..that things will not change in one day...likesomebody

is throwing garbage @ road..if u see..u shud make them

understand..that plz throw in dustbin..not road ..but the workof govt is

to make sure there is proper garbage collection system and thoseppl

come on time

Malegaon blasts --> Just wait for some more time..to see whatis the

truth ...Its still not very clear

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Godhra Fiasco--do u know who incited it first ? I also believeNarendra

was wrong..in revenging all that..cuz fight is not asolution..Peace

is..but when one side sings Peace Peace and other has alreadystarted

war..then ????

Babri Masjid -- I really feel this is useless issue..making ramMandir or

Babri Masjid there wouldnt solve the problems of a commonman...so

better to leave this past

now coming to point ---> Congress govt is sonikammi(ineffecient) govt

that blasts had happened in each major city of India and stillthat MF S

Pa*il is saying Please maintain peace ...

Also whats happening in MH..Raj is roaming here n there likechuttta

saaand and inciting ppl..and Vilasrao Deshmukh is doing nothing...

..Even Sonia and Manmohan are saying "Please ensure safety" andstill

ppl are killing each other..Had BJP been in centre , they wouldhave

been immediately expelled the govt. but Congress will never dothat ...

BJP has flaws too but anytime much better than Congress

Thats my Q : Both have -ves...but who is more better thanother

29-10-2008, 10:23 PM #7(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

i am for narendra bhai--he really works

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29-10-2008, 10:36 PM #8(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

A very controversial thread. No BJP, No congress.

BJP - Too agressive

Congress - Too Linient.

Both of them miserable failures.

Any one knows what happened to all the finalists. The last20

candidates of the Lead India campaign. They were soo promising,butturned out to be nothing. Times of India just stopped after soomuch

fuss

Cant a corporate house sponsor/support them to form aindependent

party. If i were a millionaire, i would hire every single one ofthem, and

well you know what im coming too.....

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29-10-2008, 11:11 PM #9(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

Well Mr.Shiv Khera launched his party,the BhartiyaRashtravadi

Samanata Party (BRSP), FYI !!

@esumitkumar : I concur with u. But in the end they all justturn out to

be a bunch of hypocrites! Just remove this stewpid sharia'hsystem as

well and tell the apologists to go to Paki if they want it thatdesperately

after all thats why INDIA was divided. Let the uniform civilcode &

family planning come into existence.

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29-10-2008, 11:26 PM #10(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

Well the need of the nation irrespective of any Indian'sreligion is :

1. Uniform civil code

2. Population Control

3. Development in all states not justDelhi,Mumbai,Chennai,Pune,Hyd

etc

4. End of corruption

5. Better roads,highways and no power shortage

6. Stopping illegal immigration of Bangladeshis.

I beleive only BJP can achieve these goals if not all atleastsome..

and yes 59 views and only 9 votes..common ppl ..choose ur optionif

not posting atleast !

29-10-2008, 11:34 PM #11(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

Whether we need Uniform Civil Code can be debated. But UCC atthis

point of time, or in the next 50 years is next to impossible.Also, a lot of

people don't seem to realise that UCC would also mean the repealof

HUF Act, Hindu Marriage Act etc. which, a lot of hindu zealotswould

find unacceptable.

Congress or BJP - all the same. Both suck in their own strangeways.

BJP, however, has broken the suck barrier and is heading fromsuper

suck to hyper suck. Congress is about to break that barrier.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by esumitkumar

1. Uniform civil code

2. Population Control

3. Development in all states not justDelhi,Mumbai,Chennai,Pune,Hyd

etc

4. End of corruption

5. Better roads,highways and no power shortage

6. Stopping illegal immigration of Bangladeshis.

I beleive only BJP can achieve these goals if not all atleastsome..

1. Not possible.2. Agreed, but not the Chinese way

3. Agreed

4. Keep dreaming

5. Agreed

6. Keep dreaming

BJP is run by a bunch of nincompoops. And Congress bysycophants.

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29-10-2008, 11:47 PM #12(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

@karnivore ..can u post some facts other than I and anispacehad

posted that really how BJP sucks ?? and congress is less sucking?

Also regd UCC, if enacted how it can repeal Hindu Marriage act?

What kind of country is ours where one Indian can have fourwives

legally and another Indian on having 2nd wife is jailed legally???

Also these are 2 major political parties of India..No govt ispossible

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Posts: 1,351 without the support of any one of them ! We haveonly two options in

next LS and how can u be so ignorant ? Thats y for ppl like u..I have

posted the third option ..I will sit [emailprotected] dont botherWTH is

going in my nation as long as I am comfortable ...If u want thatplz vote

at least that option...

FOR ALL PPL if u want to suggest some other party I can putother

parties name too if u want in poll..but PLZ VOTE !!

30-10-2008, 12:14 AM #13(permalink)

karnivore

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

Quote:

Originally Posted by esumitkumar

@karnivore ..can u post some facts other than I and anispacehad

posted that really how BJP sucks ?? and congress is less sucking?

Also regd UCC, if enacted how it can repeal Hindu Marriage act?

What kind of country is ours where one Indian can have fourwives

legally and another Indian on having 2nd wife is jailed legally???

Also these are 2 major political parties of India..No govt ispossible

without the support of any one of them ! We have only twooptions

in next LS and how can u be so ignorant ? Thats y for ppl like u..I

have posted the third option ..I will sit [emailprotected] dontbother

WTH is going in my nation as long as I am comfortable ...If uwantthat plz vote at least that option...

FOR ALL PPL if u want to suggest some other party I can putother

parties name too if u want in poll..but PLZ VOTE !!

Sorry to disappoint you buddy, but I don't sit pretty at homeduring the

poll day. None of the three options u provided suite me in anyway. So

no vote.

As with repeal of Hindu Marriage Act. Can you tell me why shouldthere

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be a Hindu Marriage Act, when the entire Civil Code is to beUniform.

And please provide some proof, any proof, from a reliablesource, not

some random hindu propaganda site, that people do have "fourwives

legally". Dig the census report 2001, and you might just be alittle

surprised.

To determine, what constitutes "suck", we have to have adebate.

Nevertheless some sucks are, pushing pseudo-science asmainstream

science, rewriting history, communal overtures, using publicmoney for

political campaign (Shining India), disastrous plan ofunification of

rivers etc. The only good thing that came out of that 6 years ofrule,

was the road building project.

30-10-2008, 12:25 AM #14(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

I can see by the poll results that major anti-incubancy ishappening

here. The Congress are a bunch of thieves, and the BJP are abunch of

clowns. Who do I pick? Hmmm... Think the BJP is going totallywrong onissues like Cow Slaughter and Ayodhya, this is justpleasing to a

particular religion, and I believe that such a line should notbe taken

when it comes to national politics. On the other hand, I totallyrespect

Sushma Swaraj, and believe her policies to be sociallysound.

Chidambaram just messed up the economy, and no one is happywith

the congress at this point of time. What I hate most about theCongress

is that they are turning India into America - totally ignoringthe "mixed

economy" in the constitution. Liberalisation was a bad move.

However, at least the Congress has its act together. The countryhas

progressed only when they have been in power, and they dohave

people who show results and work instead of playing politics.Yeah

they use dubious means and stuff, but they get things done -widening

the class divide, and throwing principles out of the window, butwhat

the hell.

The whole thing is however besides the point. When you vote,don't

vote for the party you want in power in the center, vote for theperson

who will directly benefit the location you stay in. That ishow

democracy is supposed to work.

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I for one, won't vote. 25 million phantom voters in the lastcount, I will

play no part in the world's largest farce.

30-10-2008, 12:33 AM #15(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anorion

...totally ignoring the "mixed economy" in the constitution.

Liberalisation was a bad move.

It wasn't by choice, mind you. Oil pool crisis led toliberalization. Once

that step was taken, there was no turning back.

30-10-2008, 01:10 AM #16(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

@swatcat

I know the other side of the story. But destroying a Mosque tomake

way for a temple. They call themselves Rambhakts and this iswhat they

do in the name of Lord Ram. There is simply no justification forthat.

@esumitkumar

I just gave my opinion. didnt want to offend u or anyone.

And as i said they both suck but Congress sucks less. Just lookat the

whole Nuke deal debate. The BJP had no reason to oppose the dealbut

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Posts: 444 they did anyway just to bring down the govt.

Also the current economic spiral cant be entirely blamed oncongress

coz its affecting the entire world n not just India.

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30-10-2008, 01:34 AM #17(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

i will always support congress.

what this nonsense "A Ban on Cow Slaughter, to honor theHindu

tradition of deeming cows and most cattle as sacred, andprohibiting

the consumption of beef and pork"

small examples below

It is mentioned in Manu Smruti, the law book of Hindus! Inchapter 5

verse 30 The eater who eats the flesh of those to be eatendoes

nothing bad! even if he does it day after day; for God himselfcreated

some to be eaten and some to be eater

If you read Mahabharata Shanti Parva chapter 29, a story ofgreatness

of a king called Rantideva is described It is said that he wasvery rich

and generous, and used to feed thousands of guests. Theparagraph

reads as follows

All the vessels and the plates, in Rantideva's palace, forholding food

and other articles, all the jugs and other pots, the pan andplates and

cups, were of gold. On those nights during which the guests usedto live

in Rantideva's abode, twenty thousand and one hundred kine{cows}

had to be slaughtered. Yet even on such occasions, the cooks,decked

in ear-rings, used to proclaim (amongst those that sat forsupper)

There is abundant of soup, take as much as you wish, but offlesh we

have not as much today as on former occasions"

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This shows that even after slaughtering 20,100 cows, meat usedto fall

short on some occasions.

The Ban on Forcible Religious Conversions.

every person has right to do anything which he thinks its properi meanif he feels christian or islam are good religion and heconverts whats

wrong with it?.It is upto the ppl who can defend its religionagainst

christian missionaries,muslim scholars or hindu scholars by

debates,discussion.i saw debate between Dr zakir naik and Shrishri shri

Ravishankar.That zakir dude was pretty impressive.

I am not criticizing hindus infact they are most intelligent andbeautiful

ppl in our country but its just that i am against BJP,VHP andhindu

taliban

all said done

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

I was a die hard supporter of BJP when Vajpayee was PM, but hehas

taken retire and I couldn't even decide whgo shoul I votenow.

All r equal now.

No good leader may be some r good person but good leader.

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30-10-2008, 02:03 AM #19(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

Quote:

Sorry to disappoint you buddy, but I don't sit pretty at homeduring

the poll day

so wat do u do ? u go to vote or not ..?

Quote:

As with repeal of Hindu Marriage Act. Can you tell me whyshould

there be a Hindu Marriage Act, when the entire Civil Code is tobe

Uniform

I am not supporting HMA..I am saying one UCC should be enactedfor

everybody who is present in India no matter what he is...(OneIndian

can take divorce by saying talaq talaq talaq and another Indianhas to

run to courts for years to take divorce ! Why this partiality ?) do u

know concept of Jury duty in US ? Once u become an americancitizen ,

u cant refuse from jury duty saying ur religion doesnt allowit

Another classic example is reservation..One Indian and his allnext

generations get a special quota ..they get admission with lowermarks

and another Indian who has scored higher in entrance exam isnot

given admission as he is not SC/ST/OBC..again fkingdiscrimination !

Quote:

And please provide some proof, any proof, from a reliablesource,

not some random hindu propaganda site, that people do have"four

wives legally".

I know ppl dont have now four wives but why their law stillallows four

wives ?? Even if some Indian has 4 wives police will not catchhim just

cuz he is of a particular religion

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Quote:

disastrous plan of unification of rivers etc.

well how can u say that was disastrous ? If in Assam,Bihar thereisalways flood and in Rajasthan,Gujarat there is always "SOOKHA" orno

rain. whats the problem in linking the rivers ???? Pleaseexplain your

point in detail

Quote:

The only good thing that came out of that 6 years of rule, wasthe

road building project.

at least u agree to one point ..but how about Nuclear test ? douconsider it useless ? in spite of all threats frm Pak and China !Why

Congress had not the guts to do it again after 1974 ? They werejust

freaking afraid of USA ? In congress I adore only one PM andthat was

Indira Gandhi !! we need some ironlady/ironman as PM not somelallu

panju !

Quote:

Think the BJP is going totally wrong on issues like CowSlaughter and

Ayodhya...this is just pleasing to a particular religion

How ? India is a Hindu Majority country ! and in our religioncow is

considered as mother...

Whats the harm in banning cow slaughter ?

Our country is the most secular..We dont have any problempeacefully

living with other religions...In fact Hindu Dharma is the mosttolerant of

all religions...and Its in India only we can have a MuslimPresident, Sikh

PM and first woman PM..in the whole world..I have many Muslimclose

frnds and I never differentiate b/w them and my Hindu frnds!

Have u ever seen Pakistan's state of Affairs ? How Hinduminority is

living there ? How free are they to practice their religion andworship ?

Also I had already expressed my opinion about Ayodhya !

Quote:

Chidambaram just messed up the economy

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++1..fully agree

Quote:

However, at least the Congress has its act together. The countryhas

progressed only when they have been in power

WOW..what a gr8 point..see some of amazing works done bycongress

from 1947-1999.

(READ ALL IN SARCASM..the truth is just opposite)

1. We have beaten China in 1962 war and occupied most of theChina

area near Arunachal Pradesh.Chacha Nehru's mantra "Hindi ChiniBhai

Bhai" has really worked

2. We are getting in every part of India 24 hrs power supply,safe

drinking water,crime free society etc etc

3. Our roads are super freeways, Even American freeways andGerman

Autobahns are nothing as compared to our roads

4. Our population is record lowest . Its lower even thanAmerica.( 33

crores)

5. We have fastest railways in whole world . Germany,France andJapan

have borrowed Bullet Train technolgies from us..We have so muchfast

trains that we can reach from Delhi to Mumbai in just 3 hrs.(1407 kms)

6. We have totally stopped cross firing from BDR (BangaladeshRifles) In

fact we have totally stopped Illegal Immigration ..Its a thingfrom the

past

7. We are the most corrupt free country in the world

8. BY all above ..our economy is so strong that 1 Rs= 45 $now

TOO MUCH hai na

Quote:

The whole thing is however besides the point. When you vote,don't

vote for the party you want in power in the center, vote forthe

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person who will directly benefit the location you stay in. Thatis how

democracy is supposed to work.

++1 ..OK so in ur area..Congress has worked ? so vote for themna ?

Quote:

I for one, won't vote. 25 million phantom voters in the lastcount, I

will play no part in the world's largest farce.

Thats the gr8est thing which most educated ppl do ...Please dontvote

and play safe..Country BJP chalaye ya congress mujhe kya ?????Mere

ko kya fark padega ? right ? aisa hee soch k hazaron lakho ppldont

vote..they dont voice their opinion..so who wins..notdemocracy..but

only a handful powerful ppl who want to always remain in power!

If you have read all this..Thanks !

@anispace

I am not offended...we are just having a healthy debate ..thatsit ..thnx

for ur concern

and ya abt destroying a mosque..Babar had the full right todestroy a

temple and karsevaks dont have right to undo what crime he hasdone

??? I also dont support this type of demolition though...

For ages and ages, first it was British who divided India andnow stupid

netas are dividing us in the name of religion , regionalism etcetc

..Illiterate ppl are getting all this s**t and we all educatedone are not

voting

and ya NUke deal..thats a lotta debatable issue..can u plz tellpros and

cons according to u

I am also agreeing BJP is not 100% good but at least if they are70%

Congress is just 40-45 %

and ya no one is blaming congress for US recession

@ancientrites

There were many things said in religious books........kya tumsabko

maante ho ?

Those things were in old times ..Todays things are changed intoday's

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perspective ...

This is human nature we bend all things said as acc to ourcomfort

and also BJP is not taliban..I am not talking abt RSS etc . InBJP regime

how many minorities have been denied all civil rights ? u knowwhynarendra won again..One of my frnds frm Ahmbd was sayingeven

some Muslims vote for Narendra ..y ? cuz he has done a whole lotof

dev in the state

and that zakir dude is pretty BS u can find on orkut manyhate

communities abt him ...its a propaganda and brainwashing !

@rhitwick

BJP just needs a rework I think..Party after Vajapyee had fallento

regional chaos and fight amongst themselves..They have gonefrom

their core Hindutva, UCC etc principles..thats why most pplare

unhappy wid them

May be Narendra can correct that..have u seen in TOI exit pollswhats

gonna happen in Delhi..BJP will wipe out all majority inforthcoming

delhi elections

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

BJP is a better party for corporates & business houses ...if they do good

naturally the middle classes do good tooo... The problem is theparty is

in shatters at the moment ...... plus too many hawks are presentin the

party which scares me ...

Status Quo of article 370 shud be maintained ,, besides it wontbe

possible to repeal it in a single term of the gov ..

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I ain't gonna vote for some party who decides what do i eat ...next

thing you know we wud be heading the taliban way with tankscrushing

seized liqour en masse ....

Building Ramjanbhoomi temple in ayodhya :::: If they do manageto

build a temple i wud be the first one to go there to destroy thetemple

and build a hospital instead ... Rather even if the logisticsdont permit i

wud build a nuclear reactor over there . Try & blow that upHAHAHA

still thrs time 4 elections .. i wud be happier to vote 4manmohan singh

with his idiot cabint rather than advani with hawks.......

LOLLING ROFLING at the guy who said liberalizing was a mistake.... by

all probabilities DIGIT wudn't have existed so wud have dozensof other

start ups including 4m the IT & BPO industry .....

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

BJP is lamer than congress,look at LK advani-everything he saysis

'lol'able.

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30-10-2008, 08:24 AM #22(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

yeas congress sucks big time.......i wanted to support someparty but

after seeign these ppl in LS...........i feel these ppl are notwoth

voting.........see them in LS channel fighting at eachother........shame....

financial crisis,marathi regionalism,etc etc really upsets mewith pres

gov

will vote for some new party if UNPA is formed.......better thanthese

two foolish party......or else someone suggest some good party iwil

vote..............fedup seeing so many pathetic situations inINDIA/We

need to have more unity amongppl.....regionalism,casteism,poverty

are the biggest issues today(n many others...)......hope someonecomes

to solve hem in future

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30-10-2008, 10:24 AM #23(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

Quote:

Originally Posted by esumitkumar

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so wat do u do ? u go to vote or not ..?

Till 5-6 years ago I did more than just vote. Now I justvote

Quote:

Originally Posted by esumitkumar

I am not supporting HMA..I am saying one UCC should be enactedfor

everybody who is present in India no matter what he is...(OneIndian

can take divorce by saying talaq talaq talaq and another Indianhas

to run to courts for years to take divorce ! Why this partiality? ) do u

know concept of Jury duty in US ? Once u become an americancitizen

, u cant refuse from jury duty saying ur religion doesnt allowit

Another classic example is reservation..One Indian and his allnext

generations get a special quota ..they get admission withlower

marks and another Indian who has scored higher in entrance examis

not given admission as he is not SC/ST/OBC..again fking

discrimination !

Common buddy, you are now shifting the goal post.

I am well aware of jury duty, and you know better that there areways

toget out of jury duty.

I support reservation at primary level, not in IITs andIIMs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by esumitkumar

I know ppl dont have now four wives but why their law stillallows

four wives ?? Even if some Indian has 4 wives police will notcatch

him just cuz he is of a particular religion

Agreed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by esumitkumar

well how can u say that was disastrous ? If in Assam,Bihar thereis

always flood and in Rajasthan,Gujarat there is always "SOOKHA"or

no rain. whats the problem in linking the rivers ???? Pleaseexplain

your point in detail

Sorry cant give you the detail, but perhaps Mr Google can helpyou.

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Anyway, I had these two bookmarks, which I can share with you.Read

a little bit onAmu-Darya projectand its disastrous effect onAral sea.

Then read this opened byV. Rajamani, Professor of Geology atJNU,

Delhi. Tinkering with nature, beyond a threshold is alwaysdisastrous.

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Originally Posted by esumitkumar

..but how about Nuclear test ? do u consider it useless ? inspite of all

threats frm Pak and China ! Why Congress had not the guts to doit

again after 1974 ? They were just freaking afraid of USA ?In

congress I adore only one PM and that was Indira Gandhi !! weneed

some ironlady/ironman as PM not some lallu panju !

About the nuclear test, I am split in two. More than the nuclearblast, I

was happy that we could beat the Yankees in their own game ofhide n

seek. On the other hand, we achieved little from the blast, ifyou keep

the overflowing nationalism in check. The embargo that followedthe

blasts almost crippled our nuclear plants and defense research,and

even some civil projects (funding got cut). If you think in Real(material)

terms, there was no gain.

Strangely though, I find Ms Gandhi, to be one of the worst PMsof

India. Remember Emergency, Bhindranwale (Khalistanmovement),

turning Congress into family property etc.

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Originally Posted by esumitkumar

How ? India is a Hindu Majority country ! and in our religioncow is

considered as mother...

Whats the harm in banning cow slaughter ?

India is constitutionally secular country. It does not matterwhich

religion is the majority. Thats why it is ethically incorrect toban cow

slaughter. Next the muslims would ask for ban on slaughter ofswine.

And I can actually refer to hymns from Hindu scriptures thatprofess

cow/ox slaughter and beef eating. But lets not get there. Butlet me

quote you only:

Quote:

Originally Posted by esumitkumar

There were many things said in religious books........kya tumsabko

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maante ho ?

Those things were in old times ..Todays things are changed intoday's

perspective ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by esumitkumar

Our country is the most secular..We dont have any problem

peacefully living with other religions...In fact Hindu Dharma isthe

most tolerant of all religions...and Its in India only we canhave a

Muslim President, Sikh PM and first woman PM..in the wholeworld..I

have many Muslim close frnds and I never differentiate b/wthem

and my Hindu frnds !

Have u ever seen Pakistan's state of Affairs ? How Hinduminority is

living there ? How free are they to practice their religion andworship

?

Is Hindu Dharma the most tolerant of all religions ? Notconsidering

Buddhism or Jainism, compared to the Abrahamic religions, it isindeed

tolerant. But it is intolerant in a different way. It simplyrefuses to

recognize other religion by shoehorning those into itsscriptures. There

is a reason why Buddhism is virtually non-existing in the landof its

birth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by esumitkumar

Thats the gr8est thing which most educated ppl do ...Pleasedont

vote and play safe..Country BJP chalaye ya congress mujhe kya?????

Mere ko kya fark padega ? right ? aisa hee soch k hazaron lakhoppl

dont vote..they dont voice their opinion..so who wins..not

democracy..but only a handful powerful ppl who want toalways

remain in power !

You are forgetting, that voting is legal right, NOT compulsory.NOT

voting is also a right. Just as voting is expression of opinion,NOT voting

is an expression of opinion negative opinion. In a democraticsystem,

not voting is equivalent to saying, I dont like any of thecandidates

and hence I refuse to choose any of you. Please explain, whynegative

opinion is NOT an opinion.

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30-10-2008, 12:21 PM #24(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

^^ But isn't NOT voting different and less effective from NOVoting (

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...ow/1030221.cms ) ?

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathik

^^ But isn'tNOT voting different and less effective from NOVoting (

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...ow/1030221.cms) ?

Hmmm, can't really agree there Pathik. If you're given theoption of

getting whipped by a cane or a whiplash, or not getting whippedat all,

what would you choose?

Anyway, these parties are bloodsuckers anyway. In any case,they're

only interested in narrow minded appeasem*nt of someone/thingor

another. Anyhow, if I feel like I'd be whipped more or less bysomeone,

I can choose to show my dissent that I wouldn't liked to bewhipped by

anyone.

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30-10-2008, 01:47 PM #26(permalink)

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

A request: PLEASE don't laugh(except at jokes(you'll know!))after

reading the content of this post. Politicians, please dont readthis. Also,

I'd like to declare that I can't vote(I'm still a minor ).Nevertheless,

here's what I think:

The NDA was definitely better than the UPA! The falling economyand

inflation(can't stress this enough... wait, I guess I can try:Inflation) are

the proofs which are screaming in our face for attention.

BJP might be better but hey, they are still politicians! Not allof them

are evil(All hail Mr. Modi!), but most of them are(in BJP aswell as

congress, UPA, any party!). The point is, no matter what wechoose, a

bad apple "destroys" the bunch(I've always wanted to saythat!).

Corruption, even in little amounts can lead to decay of thewholesystem!

When I say whole, I mean whole! look at what happened toSourabh

Ganguly due to politics(Mr. Pawar, please look away).

I've said this before, I'll say this again:-

This might lead to a trapped feeling. That's what causes most ofus to

gape at other countries and try to find jobs elsewhere. It mightappear

as if, there's no way out. But there is!!! Consider trying toenter politics

yourself out of frustration caused by the existing politicians!If a group

of nice people do so, India will rise from its ashes!

One may argue that no one will vote for a political newbie!Well,that IS

the problem! Common folks here just don't vote for anyonebecause

they give a damn for the country. They just seek someone who isof

their caste! Or someone related to them! Or someone who willgive

them reservations or any kind of previlage. This reminds meof

elections in schools. Candidates offer free ice-creametc!!!!!

So, unless Indians wake up and think of this alternative, therecan be nocommon progress! I can only wait for such a future (orrather

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hope for existence of such a future!)

We have democracy! We should use it!(Yet again, I'm feeling likea dork

! Any supporters?)

@esumitkumar: Good thing you created this one, I could almostseeadmins getting angry about the use of Random news as FightClub!

Also,

Quote:

Originally Posted by esumitkumar

2. We are getting in every part of India 24 hrs power supply,safe

drinking water,crime free society etc etc

Don't joke about matters like that, dude! It really hurts!

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Re: BJP vs Congress !!

Quote:

Originally Posted by karnivore

It wasn't by choice, mind you. Oil pool crisis led toliberalization. Once

that step was taken, there was no turning back.

I don't know why the government is buffering the social costsofowning a vehicle. If oil costs so much to the governments, thepeople

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with vehicles should bear the total costs of the oil. This meansthat a lot

of people will opt for public transport, which is good for theeconomy

and the ecology. The parking costs of vehicles in metropolitancities are

rediculously low. In fact, they are free in many places. Look atthe

prime location parking rates in cities like New York, London,Sydney orTokyo, and you will know how little people owning vehiclesare actually

paying up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by esumitkumar

Another classic example is reservation..One Indian and his allnext

generations get a special quota ..they get admission withlower

marks and another Indian who has scored higher in entrance examis

not given admission as he is not SC/ST/OBC..again fking

discrimination !

Reservation is a good thing. Although how it is implemented istotally

irregular, to equalize the class devide, you totally needreservations.

One example of this is that mosts scientists in India are fromUpper

class Hindu Brahmin families from South India.

Quote:

Originally Posted by esumitkumar

Whats the harm in banning cow slaughter ?

Only that it is against the beliefs of another religion, andthey don't care

about the friggin cows, they care about the number of votes thisstep

will get them.

@Ayodhya: so what if it was a Ram temple all those centuriesago. If we

go on to correct every single historical mistake commited inthis

country, we will end up not taking pro-active steps for thefuture. The

govt should not invest in anything at Ayodhya. If anything, ahospital or

a school should be set up there using money from Hindu andMuslim

funds. Now that would be something productive instead ofanother

hell-hole of sacrilage.

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Originally Posted by esumitkumar

WOW..what a gr8 point..see some of amazing works done by

congress from 1947-1999.

(READ ALL IN SARCASM..the truth is just opposite)

1. We have beaten China in 1962 war and occupied most of theChina

area near Arunachal Pradesh.Chacha Nehru's mantra "HindiChini

Bhai Bhai" has really worked

2. We are getting in every part of India 24 hrs power supply,safe

drinking water,crime free society etc etc

3. Our roads are super freeways, Even American freeways and

German Autobahns are nothing as compared to our roads

4. Our population is record lowest . Its lower even thanAmerica.( 33

crores)

5. We have fastest railways in whole world . Germany,Franceand

Japan have borrowed Bullet Train technolgies from us..We haveso

much fast trains that we can reach from Delhi to Mumbai in just3

hrs. (1407 kms)

6. We have totally stopped cross firing from BDR (BangaladeshRifles)

In fact we have totally stopped Illegal Immigration ..Its athing from

the past

7. We are the most corrupt free country in the world

8. BY all above ..our economy is so strong that 1 Rs= 45 $now

TOO MUCH hai na

Except point 8, none of this is the fault of the Congress. Youexpect the

congress to stop Indians from breeding like rats? You expect theBJP

can do that? Who started the "hum do hamare do" thing? Who

developed health care and the mid day meal program. Go figure.These

are inherent problems of India, unless we go communist orsomething,

these problems will never be solved. Because of the rates of

renumeration of the Beurocracy, corruption will awlays bethere.

Bangladeshis will continue to flee to India, and as humans havea right

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to escape terribly inhuman conditions and come to relativelyless

inhuman conditions. We should accomodate them, the same aswe

accomate refugees from Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Bangladeshisare

people too, not lesser mongrels. The problem with the roads isnot that

the concrete is not of good quality, its just that thetransportationpeople [illegaly] overload their trucks, somethingfor which the

highways were simply not designed. This was from a surveyconducted

by the UN to see how India was using world bank funds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by esumitkumar

++1 ..OK so in ur area..Congress has worked ? so vote for themna ?

No. Actually, in my area, the Shiv Sena has worked. They reallyhave. I

am not a marathi manoos, and I am totally against some oftheir

methods, but in my locality, they are the most promising goonsaround,

they will probably end up in a BJP govt at the center, whichwill totally

work for the most of you, but I still refuse to vote.

Quote:

Originally Posted by esumitkumar

Thats the gr8est thing which most educated ppl do ...Pleasedontvote and play safe..Country BJP chalaye ya congress mujhe kya?????

Mere ko kya fark padega ? right ? aisa hee soch k hazaron lakhoppl

dont vote..they dont voice their opinion..so who wins..not

democracy..but only a handful powerful ppl who want toalways

remain in power !

I do care a damn. There are retards, illiterates, fanatics,lunatics and

idiots out there, and all of them vote. I will vote if any onehere can give

me just ONE direct benefit of doing so. What good will my votedo to

me? The country is going strong irrespective of the govt in thecenter.

Less than 60% of the people cast their ballots, and you callthis country

a democracy. Elections are simple hilarious, its a comedy and aput up.

Everyone knows who is going to win and for what reasons.Anti-

incubancy is a decisive factor in every elections sinceindependance.

We just end up hating the govt that ruled for five years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sreevirus

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Anyway, these parties are bloodsuckers anyway. In any case,they're

only interested in narrow minded appeasem*nt of someone/thingor

another. Anyhow, if I feel like I'd be whipped more or lessby

someone, I can choose to show my dissent that I wouldn't likedto be

whipped by anyone.

+1

Vote for the BJP if you guys want. It will be "India Shining"all over

again, and everyone will have a few laughs with them going onstage

and putting on a comedy. The only good thing is we won'thave

bloodsucking leeches in power.

Whatever happened to the hammer and the sickle?

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